FULL THEORY: https://youtu.be/ZlazArpms9c

Maybe the next game will have the player try to defy the path laid by the dragonborn in TESV for alduin to destroy the world and try to kill him once and for all. Or maybe bethesda will ignore that alduin is eventually gonna eat everything

He just wants to conquer and that’s a no no. Our purpose is to make him chill the fuck out for later.

How hot is a dragon fire in Skyrim? So far it’s just like fiery hot air spray.

Wow!!

Yee !❤

You know alderwin was probably the coolest looking villain. I’ve ever seen in any video game but The boss fight was so boring like this is A main story boss fight can you at least make it hard? He was so easy it was so boring.

So by ignoring the main quest, I’m actually saving the world? And here I thought I was just mucking around…

No 🥺 so we all helped destroy the world when we thought we were saving it.
I’m not sure how I’m going to sleep tonight after hearing this

explains a lot of why the game makes you evil by nature

🤯

He hasn’t returned, he just left at one point in time and came back at another.

He returned mudafucker 😂😂

Yo, what if and I know this would never happen what if Akatosh looks at parthanax and goes you’ll be the world eater if we don’t end up killing him and because of the ending of the Dragonborn DLC, if you decide to serve Hermaeus mora he ends up making it, so your body doesn’t age from natural causes, and then you end up fighting parthanax the very guy you’ve called friend for so many years

Finally you are all on my level

…….damn.

Me and my brother figured this out a year or two, after skyrim first came out.

Alduin is Akatosh

Here’s me wishing we could save alduin.

Akatosh: “Well, when you’re first born is corrupt, try, try again.”

Actually makes sense, and also (Ik it wasn’t anybody’s intention) but it makes sense in gameplay too. Now when you do all the side quests instead of the main, you can say you’re delaying the apocalypse! 😀

It’s awesome you realized how amazing of a comment that was and decided to share it🤘

Thought this was kinda “no shit” but ig not

The final Alduin fight kinda pissed me off. It wasn’t even hard and when you defeated him you couldn’t make a special set of dragon-bone armor from his remains..

Crap game, so slow and boring.

And before anyone griefs me, I own it, I loved it, then I got sick of Bethesda’s clunky engines and crappy repetative gameplay.

So does that mean we’re not the last dragonborn 😢

You are right I never absorbed his soul when I defeated alduin

Paarthurnax says that those who seek to delay the end could hasten its arrival which is exactly what this would do.

Woah, cool

Fuck, I miss the passion of this channel

i always thought this

Wait…….who’s Alduin?

That is assuming that he was instantly brought to the future and not traped all this time

😮 ooh! So does that mean if you never complete the main story you stop the end of the world?

Alduin is a smash ngl.

OK we talk about wrong things? Well then … Skyrim is a Lie in its entirety. Skyrim contains not a single DRAGON so you can’t be a Dragon born. America get this wrong from european lore. Skyrim has Wyverns not Dragons. So technically you are a wyvernborn and alduin can’t ever fulfill his purpose because he’s not a dragon.

Yes sir

I just wish you could actually be a villan and join alduin

And this is why I chained and fucked Alduin instead of killing him. (Lots of mods)

I just realized something.

Did any of the other regions even know what was going on in Skyrim regarding the dragons and the Dragonborn prophecy?

I’m sure the Thalmor and the Imperials were well aware but what about the everyday citizen?

“Some guy in Skyrim found out he was the prophesized hero and he slayed the world eater as well as the first of his kind, the Dragonborn Mirrak.” “Yeah, that seems normal.”

So dragonborn was sent to help alduin destroy the world?

Doesnt matter my character killed him in two hits with susanoo

Even tough the game doesn’t deliver that sense of urgency and treat, Alduin was an pretty big deal, just think about it, he was impervious to any kind of damage except if the attacks came from the Last Dragonborn, the Dragon Age cold have returned 100% of the time if we died.

How is it wrong if he’s not defeated the world gets taken over by dragons and ends, but if you slay him it doesn’t end, sounds like the prophecies to me

Nope. I killed his sorry ass.

As Paartgurmax put it, prophecy is not will be but what may be. I know that’s not how prophecy works, but he said it not me lol

Alduins soul is in fact absorbed

mindblown

Doesn’t his soul go up? Meaning akatosh consumes Alduin?

Alduins was in his rebellious phase for a few thousand years and said “No dad i don’t wanne do my devine duty, eating Nirn is so boring, i want to rule it instead” and Akatosh really just created him a little humanoid cousin and said “Aight boy im to lazy to do this myself so whoop your cousins ass for me real quick, Ok?”

O think nirn is a really cool place in tes. It has such a good fantasy setting and has books about it. I love so much. If you don’t know what I mean im talking about books like “the infernal city”.

i thought everyone knew this

this is why majority of people who’ve played skyrim, haven’t actually completed it… they know… they know xD

Isn’t his only intent while in sovengarde to eat souls? He wasn’t devouring souls before, during the dragon empire. Alduin eats souls to gain power to eventually eat nirn

Him not wanting to destroy the world doesn’t mean that he WON’T destroy the world though. Stopping the afterlife from functioning and destroying everything in a quest for more power could very easily destroy the world.

actually killing him is what sets him back on his path

That’s what I’ve always thought

The real reason for all this was for someone to make money. it is just a game.

oops, for some reason I absorbed his soul when he died, so no end of the world for me I guess

That’s what they said they did, send alduin into the future to be fought there mostly because of the prophesy about the dragonborn, if alduin wasn’t sent then he would have never known he was dragon born

Honestly, I loaded my game up with so many mods, I forgot there even was a story…. 500 hours later…

That’s why you always try to have more than one theory. And or try to at least lower down to two theorys

Dam it guys! We got it wrong!

when you actually think about it, alduin, akatosh, auriel, and alkosh are all vastly different. its possible that alduin the world eater is not alduin the god. it would explain why he roams the skies of nirn instead of aetherius like the other gods do. perhaps he is an aspect of the god alduin, kinda like pelinal is an aspect of shezarr or shor. just food for thought.

we willfind out in 20 years

Good point

Maybe, the dragon that was suppose to devour the world was not Alduin, but you. the Dragonborn.

… I always wanted to be friends with alduin for saving me. And now this… I guess is time for world domination.

Damn, someone beat me to it. Well yes youre correct. Alduin needed the good old ice pick labotomy.😂🎉

Personally I look at it as he’s training to try and kill me one day but you look at it how you want to look at it

You have to wonder how Akatosh would feel about Alduin’s actions

I remember seeing the exact comment a few months back. It’s a really interesting theory, and it’s now what I see as my own headcanon

The Dragonborn is the world eater and Alduin is there to make him reach is full potential. That’s my theory anyway

Isn’t that what parthanax refer to this ? In a conversation

Isn’t that how all these games are?.

In Morrowind dagoth wanted the heart to increase his own power and give him greater abilities in chim.

In oblivion dagon wasn’t trying to actually do his divine role of bringing about rebirth, he simply wanted another relm to subjugate.

The nine divine play both sides.

For these entities are supposed to bring about the rebirth of nirn but of course even God’s can become selfish.

The champions throughout tamriel were not placed there or given the ability of chim to save the world.

They have it to act as a balance between cosmic forces

It’s been over 11 years since the game originally released… I have yet to actually complete the main quest line.

Jesus, Finally someone fucking says it. I’ve been saying this shit for ages, Because 50% of people says “it’s just a game” and 50% of people says “it doesn’t make any sense”. How has this only now been said by a big YouTuber ten years after the games fucking release?

I wish you could be boys with him, there’s so many dragons you’re tight with. I just wish he could be one of them.

English please

That’s certainly an interesting theory.

what if alduin was trying to save the universe by destroying nirn because there was some there that could destroy all of reality

Yes, that’s the story of the game. Well done

me, who was trying to save the world: ah crap baskets

To be fair, you can’t really blame them. To them, Alcuin just bailed for a few thousand years.

That would make the Dragonborn Gandalf and Alduin would be Saruman…kinda 😂😂😂 I fck wit it tho cuz that’s dope!

I half expected that after you beat Alduin the game would fade to black and you would open your eyes right before you get your head cut off by the executioner at the start, making the whole game a fever dream.

and that’s why I never complete the main quest line

So is alduin actually like an insane aspect of akatosh? I know the whole “aka” over soul thing is not solid canon but even in skyrim’s temple of divines akatosh has the head of a man and a dragon, so maybe the cult caused this? As worship leads to power in the elder scrolls, for alduin he essentially was blasted forward to an era where he’s practically irrelevant in terms of worshippers, he panics, and begins trying to rapidly consolidate power and worship to re establish himself as a god like figure, ie; he’s not mad with power, he’s going bad because he has LESS power, and he’s trying to gather enough to once again eat the world, Alcuin’s motivations may not have changed, but the world has enough to change his relevance upon it

🤯

Dude, now that’s something I haven’t thought about

So basically it’s like hitting a kid with a newspaper because he wouldn’t eat his meal

Alduin came in to early if I recall, and chose to rule when that was not his purpose. He’s the world eater, not world ruler.

😧what have I done.

Spoiler alert bro I didn’t know Alduin dies

What you just said was the most stupid thing in the world

I am basing an entire character as the second coming of Alduin right now.

If this is true…then I only have one thing to say.

Whoops.

1: Achieve Chim
2: Permanently end the Kalpa Cycle
3: Allow the current timeline to continue indefinitely
4: Profit?

This is literally Alduin in his rebel phase. Wait until he finally matures and accepts his purpose in the world… which is to destroy it once and for all for a new kalpa to begin.

That was a long commen

Mind blown

There’s a line from parthunax that explains this pretty well, we’ll really the ending of any world well. “Our world is the kalpa , or egg, for the next one” idk why but I heard that as an 11 year old and it just popped up in my mind now 😂

Perhaps the protagonist of skyrim isn’t the last dragonborn, because the prophecy still needs to be fulfilled

Remember what paarthurnax said “those who work to delay the end may actually bring it closer and those who work to bring the end may actually end up delaying it.”

So THIS is my duty as dragonborn. To make the world ending possible. Sounds sick af so long as I could be with the dragons I’m chilling. Sorry Nirn

We were their to make it possible that’s not bad writing Bethesda

**Nods** Yeah uhuh and here’s an alternate take:

**Installs the Doomsday Mod that for sure makes Alduin the bad guy and gives a consequence for not getting there in a year with the world being destroyed**

>.> Now I am not the bad guy. Hehehehehehe! I’m the hero!

<.< On this account anyway...

But uh… If Alduin just wanted to rule the land wouldn’t that mean our version of the world was over and he was the one that “devoured” it?

you said it wrong, it’s pronounced part snacks. party snacks is the best pronunciation

It been so long since i done vanilla quest line
I mostly start with alternate life mod lol and haven’t become dragonborn until few weeks ago

We need this: Skyrim: The Dark Souls.

Single greatest RPG ever right there

It’s an interesting idea but definitely ain’t it. The Prophecy is pretty clear cut and it definitely isn’t bullshit since every omen came to pass and they certainly aren’t vague.

I don’t think Alduin is the world-eater because of some esoteric duty to end time, but simply because his ambition is such that he would inevitably consume the world in his lust for power. Hence why the ancients HAD to defeat him, they just delayed the inevitable end at the dragons’ hands until such a time someone could kill Alduin. As to why Alduin’s soul flies into the sky, I always took it for given that Alduin is just an aspect of Akatosh and he was restored to his true place as one fragment of the Divine’s complete soul.

He is also not a Dragon but a god, kind of. Right?

I’m pretty sure Parthunax considered that for like 2 seconds. When he said something about people who try to slow the end speed it up. I might be misremebering

So he could resurrect as Preston?🤔

People still talking about skyrim, man, so nostalgia i wsih to be around for the next game but highly doubt

I actually loved this plot element. Like I’m truth they covered up the reason for his defeat as to keep the people of Skyrim from living in constant fear and worry of his return.

Look at it this way: remember in Avenger’s Endgame how ant man traveled 5 years in the future because he wasn’t pulled out by his partner? He said it felt like only 5 hours for him. That’s why I’m a sense, maybe for Alduin it felt like barely any time had passed since his disappearance, hence why he immediately resorted to attacking helgen since helgen is the closest of the towns/villages/ holds to high hrothgar of all the others in Skyrim. So now it makes a lot more sense to me.

Yup already knew that

I feel like Alduin is actually the end of time to make a beginning, which would make him one of the two first daedra

Actually, it makes a lot of sense

Probably why you can ignore the main quest

He was trapped for thousands of years not 5 minutes he was waiting for his moment to rise again

Fuck just saw the end😂

Alruin doesn’t die at the end because you don’t collect a dragon soul

Miraak knows this that’s why he didn’t pursue on slaying Alduin

After discovering the alchemy loop and nightshade/glowing shrooms with flame cloak. As the Dragonborn, I became the true world eater 😂

i literally had an argument about this to a friend of mine turns out i was completely in the right

I disagree. The fact that Alduin comes back to oppose King Wulfharth and fight Shor in the first era shows that it wasn’t just a few seconds in his perspective.

I saw this short earlier and I’m just playing through the dawnguard dlc again when I noticed that when Dexion Evicus reads the elder scroll, the scroll states “in the time when dragons return”. Alduin isn’t named specifically but this could be taken as the scroll saying that he is in fact returning and not just being time travelled forward.

So by becoming high king, breaking the main quest by becoming high king and imposing my brutal rule on the people of Skyrim I was actually saving the world? There is something to be said for tyrants.

Tbh Skyrims probably the game I have the most nostalgia for, Bethesda really needs to double down for TES:6 and creation engine jank 😂

I got it right from the beginning of the reason that we were killing alduin because he wouldn’t end the world and instead ruled over it until the nords sent him forward in time

You cannot delay or stop the inevitable

Do you think the dragons in Skyrim fulfill the same role as the ShadowsVessles in Babylon 5 , Its almost a paralell story line

Hold on boys. starfield is coming

Yeah?

From my perspective, it’s Akatosh who decides when the world should end and should not.

What would the elder scrolls be without over analyzing nerds?

parathonax is the real bad guy along with the blades. i only fuck with the other 2 dragons the one you trap and the one you free from the dawngaurd dlc

I mean, from our perspective, he is returning. I really doubt that the prophecy would be told from the perspective of the Word Eater itself.

I am interested in this theory, but it is fundamentally flawed.

Alternate alternate theory: the prophecy of Alduin as the “World Eater” is a misunderstanding caused by centuries of mythological “telephone”. The ancient heroes warned Skyrim that Alduin would return in thousands of years in order to prepare people for his literal return due to the time portal, but generations of Nords and legends corrupted the literal warning to instead be about a mythological end of the world

Yeah, Alduin will swallow the world when it ends but only when it ends, until then he will just chill waiting for it to end, or now that he’s died he’ll come back at the end.

The Senile Scribbles. Fact of the matter is no one can make head nor tail of Bad meeting Evil. Be Good everyone!

I like how they sent the god devouring dragon to the future like “eh fuck it, you guys deal with this shit”

“One often finds his destiny and the path he takes to avoid it”

This is like someone explaining how 2+2 doesnt = 4. I want to go wash my ears out with bleach now…

Welp, time to go reinstall Skyrim

Alduin didn’t even want to go ahead in time. Some selfish Nords yeeted him ahead and he’s just like “well, shit, might as well while I’m here.”

I actually Ike this theory, it makes it feel like more of a God if he has several varient forms, and the one we fight is simply his Angry gonna burn things form, but can’t swap forms until after he’s died, returning his soul to wherever he needs to change forms. Him coming back as something bigger and stronger is more godlike, and more like Mankar Cameron and Meruns Dagon level of trickery.

so that’s why we haven’t gotten an elderscrolls 6. we ended the world.

Essentially, Akatosh made us so that we could help him put our older brother in celestial timeout

I only played it for the argonian waifu deeja and my cheese stealing khajiit harem

Except you do absorb his soul after defeating him.

Incorrect. He was basically placed in a non-time dimensional plane big enough for just him that had a outside of itself time sphere that counted down. At end of the countdown it dispersed the dimensional plane causing alduin to seem to reappear or have been thrown forward through time itself.

Hey that’s the players mission in Dragons dogma and Dark Souls

So parth was write, trying to stop the end will just bring it closer

So a dark souls like story lol

Me, who has not finished said game: OH GEE, THANKS FOR THE SPOILERS

could be, sounds interesting.

Jokes on him, I never finished to story!

parthanaux trained man and turned his back on alduin bullshit alduin would have bought the end of mankind

I want a mod where my mission is to set him back on the right path.

Kinda sad that I na few thousand years no technological advancement has really happened among any of the provinces.

oh shit thats true

BRUH what?!

Paartu tells you that Akatosh was displeased because he tried to usurp him by creating his dragon cult and the whole domination of humans.
Literally Alduin got such a big head that Akatosh sent the DB to spank the shit out of him till he died. First MIraak but he reneged on his duty.

This means that Akatosh looks kindly on Partuu or dragons learning the Way of The Voice as it allows dragons to deal with their instinctive desire to dominate rule (as side effect from being Akatosh born) Immortality is a helluva drug y’know. Also makes Akatosh a jealous dragon god.

Also the Paartu tells you that Dragons are beings of Time (Akatosh) therefore they are uniquely susceptible to time phenomena in this case the Elder Scrolls. However, Alduin already had a big head since before the Nords used the scrolls on him. The Scrolls didn’t not change his nature.

What if in his quest to dominate the world he ate and destroyed it? To me that’s what seems to be happening

Wait but wouldn’t you have to destroy Alduin before he was sent forward in time to prevent the sequence from repeating itself? Because if not he can just come back in a time loop.

It is nice to be ambiguous !

Yeah. Honestly it never really felt like an end of the world scenario to me

I always just saw it as Alduin was throwing a fit because the ancient nords were fighting back against the rule of the dragons and winning. So, through the three heros he got sent forward in time, to try and make him calm down, and when that didnt work the gods, specifically Akatosh since he is supposed to be the Father of the Dragons, “activate” the Last Dragonborn to put Alduin in “Timeout,” like the ‘naughty child throwing a tantrum’ he is. never saw it as Alduin being “corrupted” or something like that.

Jörmungandr

So we are the bad guys

I haven’t played this game yet shame on me tbh 😕

the ‘end’ is always the ‘beginning’

The elder scrolls 6 will be about the resurrected alduin with the character creation were a gift from akatosh and the mission will be about to reunite tamriel with all the races also the snow elf and the dwemer from their dimension so they’ll fight a grave danger like a high being from the other continents like atmora etc
That’s just a thought inspired by this video

There is technically some truth to that but it’s completely irrelevant.

The thing is the prophecy wasn’t penned by Alduin so his perspective doesn’t matter.

You need to look at the prophecy from the perspective of the prophet, theirself. From their point of view, Alduin was there then he was gone. Cut to the events of the game and he is back, having seemably returned. Therefore, this is World Eating Alduin.

It’s like if someone in Biblical times had a vision of the future. They might see people flying in a plane.

However, they wouldn’t know what it was so their prophecy could be something like “one day we will be eaten by giant, armoured birds and carried elsewhere at which point, they’ll let us go”.

Cut to the modern day and from our perspective, this prophecy hasn’t come true yet. However, from the perspective of the prophet, it has.

Our point of view is irrelevant, whereas theirs is of the utmost importance. Therefore, we can say that the prophecy has definitely been fulfilled.

Alduin is also ridiculously powerful, which isn’t really portrayed well in the games. He turned the Leper king into Mehrunes Dagon. And I believe he bested two other deadric princes in combat.

If I’m being honest, I think that he’s a dragon

This is one spicy take and i love it

So it’s possible this isn’t the last dragonborn

Basically Alduin got sent forward in time looked around a while (since I doubt he flew straight to helgen) and noticed all dragons were gone but parthanax and then started to revive his buddies

Heres the FACTS Alduin isnt ENDING the world like many think, he wants to RULE the world, you arnt killing a domniating version (dumbest thing ive heard) and you ARE sent to kill him by father Akotash… seriously did nobody listen or pay attention? alduin wants to rule man, he wants worship/ to steal his fathers worship….

So is the Dragonborne evil? I don’t get it what is the purpose of killing alduin or whatever.

When Alduin went forward in time was Parthuunax hiding behind his word wall?

It’s almost like someone paid attention to the story

Fuck.

That’s a Drake not a Dragon.

So basically by beating alduin they think they can avoid the end of the world, but by actually beating alduin they started the end of the world?? Broo..🤯 It’s like oogway from Kung Fu panda said, “One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.”

…holy shit.

you know this problem would be solved if Bethesda gave Alduin more screentime and made him make more sense as a villain

Literally no one was wrong about this. If you’ve played it even once you’ll know that the reason they wanted to stop Alduin wasn’t because he was going to end the world by eating it as he is destined to, but to rule it as he flat out kept saying he would. Ffs they even say at the end that he will most likely return to complete his destiny. And the Dragonborn had to defeat him otherwise he would rule the world as he once did before. The gods sent the Dragonborn to stop Alduin due to his own corrupted nature as a dragon. The Dragonborn saved everyone, and Alduin’s destiny has been delayed. No one was wrong about this. What even is this video lmao

Even when you ask the Greybeards about not absorbing Alduin’s soul, he says something to the effect of Alduin will return to fulfill his duty as the World Eater because that’s who he still is

Well that’s elderscrolls alter time not for now , for then and forever

So this was a corrupted aldium that we were meant to destroy so he may be reborn into a new being that will fulfill his purpose. To eat the world.

OMG I CAN’T WAIT FOR ELDER SCROLLS VI: SKYRIM 2

I think because alduin is so evil he just doesn’t have a soul.

Well, people thinking he’s a going to destroy the world only is because they’re going to be the ones dying. Wow he’s gonna be giving the universe a rebirth, the new kappa another words, they are making room for a new creation

So um… Should Todd sell Skyrim again?

Way to think WAYYYY too hard about a game made by a bad game company over a decade ago. Go touch grass.

I was the 1000th comment lmao

I kinda like this idea especially because the Aedra represent order rather than goodness. And Akatosh would want a nice orderly timeline with a beginning a middle and end, and would want his tool of achieving that – Alduin – back under his care.
Even more reason to side with “good”/neutral daedra whenever possible

So what ur saying is that us dragonborn basically fucked ourselves by sending alduin’s soul to Talos so he can resume his role? Well fuck.

wow no shit

Reinforcing that Paarthunax is a bad guy. I am now vindicated in my killing of that monster

Who didn’t know this?

Wait. The end of the world happens when you beat the game?

It should also be noted that bringing about the end of NIRN is NOT a bad thing, as the world is a trap set by Lorkhan to consume all creation into Sithis(nothingness). Devouring the world in this sense can be seen as “Difusing the trap” allowing the earthbones to finally rest in their duty and unbinding the damage that Lorkhan’s deception was wrought on reality.

Factsssssss

Man, my personal perception of the Skyrim story was taken and now whenever I bring it up people will think it’s because of Fudgemuppet

Alduin glitched forward in time

Holy shit 😳 that makes so much sense

i killed that punk

He didn’t go straight to Helgen, that’s impossible. He came to and found his brothers all died and knowing the prophecy, he knew a Dragonborn is the only one who could stop him.
When he was sent forward in time and the blades killed all the dragons (except a few), the people believed for a few hundred years that all dragons are gone as well as the legend of the Dragonborn.
When Alduin returned, he had to figure out where & when he was. He created a plan to bring his brothers back but in doing this he also felt the Dragonborn which is who he also set out to find.
This theory that’s in this video is far from realistic and has so many holes in it.
Don’t forget when he was sent back, he was in the mist of a fight with other dragons flying around the mountains, to him being sent forward in time was just a few moments. You want me/us to believe that he knew exactly what had happened to him and to all his kind and what he needed to do within those few moments not to mention where he needed to fly to for the Dragonborn? Sorry, can’t. Too many questions with that theory not to mention insinuates that are not within the lore.

Anytime I see this game, I get a memory of my brother telling me that if I didn’t do the dishes, he was gonna save the game right before I died and delete all the other ones
Pov: Youngest siblings’ problems

What if you were only meant to be the last dragon born I see no reason there can’t be another

Alduin is a nice person. ❤️

There’s also the simple fact that none of his actions progress the destruction of the world. He’s clearly just here to take over the world rather than destroy it.

Is this… is this supposed to be a new theory?

Not *everyone* is wrong about Alduin. Nazeem is just worried you’re becoming almost as cool as him, visiting the Cloud District so often.

Alduin flew into Helgen like “Don’t call it a comeback, I been here for years!”

Yo, I actually really like this explanation

Whooooooa 🤯

Dam imagine if we finish the storyline in elder scrolls 6 and aldrin comes to fuck shit up but instead of a little town it’s the whole fucking world

I like to think that dragons perceive time in a different way to mortals.
To them it’s a like a very complex chess game, they know where (when) everyone is and are trying to make the correct move. With the only problem being they can’t ‘see’ other dragons.
Which is why that first one is so surprised when it notices the dragon born is there.

This is nonsense and semantic nitpicking. Being sent forward through time can be seen as returning, from the perspective of the time where he disappeared.

That could also be what Paarthurnaz meant when he said “Those who work to delay the end may bring it closer”

And thats why mr dragon man asks “what if you only balance the forces that work to quicken the end of the world?”

So in way the player is kinda Alduin in a way

This is brilliant

This lore ending doesn’t make sense the actual lore makes sense

Yes but the real question is how will he be recreated and in what form? I may just be uninformed but dragons dont reproduce so how will he be recreated if the gods dont do it themselves?

The Elder Scrolls universe is divided up into kalpas, which are universal cycles that eventually end with a world eater destroying Nirn. So we just delayed that with the help of some past nords who decided to abuse time and send him to the future, where we slew him, resetting him. He will return in the future and actually fulfill his purpose properly, that being to devour the world so it can be reborn.

Tangentially related fact, according to the original writer for the series (who no longer works at Bethesda) the surface of Nirn is a timeline moving eastward, with the current kalpa focusing on Tamriel. The previous kalpa focused on Yokuda, a continent to the west of Tamriel that was destroyed in some cataclysm. The next one will focus on Akavir, a continent to the east of Tamriel that we know very little about. The idea behind this is that the past is bygone, and can only be remembered, which is why Yokuda is gone and only remembered. Meanwhile, Akavir is mysterious, like the future, and can only be predicted but not known for certain.

Of course this was confirmed by the original writer for TES _after_ he left the studio, so take it with a grain of salt.

Wait. So completing the game and beating Paarthurnax is actually a bad ending?

Nope

But if his past version then the future him won’t return because he’s already dead, so unless I didn’t get what your saying or you explained it incorrectly. You DO prevent it, not making it possible 💀

So basically Alduin malfunctioned and the Divines sent the Dragonborn to reprogram him

when Skyrim had a good story for once

I feel like it’s a fight that’ll happen every set amount of years and whoever wins decides the fate of Nirn, it would make sense as that is apart of many mythologies including Norse which is was the game is based on.

YESIR!! Skyrim’s one of the last

Well. There’s the plot for TES VI.

quick question that always bothered me… isnt Alduin a being that exists out of time? Why did he rescue the MC/Dragon born/ The player??? He shouldve been able to see what his rescue mission leads to… or am is overseeing something?? This shit is on my mind for over 10 years now lmao

Akatosh: alduin what the the hell have you been doing for the last 700+ years you where supposed to destroy the world a long time ago
Alduin: 😶

What if alduin was trying to save Skyrim from the Dragonborn, because they can join clan volikar, the dark brotherhood , etc

So… what you’re telling me is… if Alduin and the Dragonborn allied it would be the darkest timeline?

I have actually commented something similar about this on some channel, Like alduins perspective is different that the current skyrim timeline… like for them its about a thousand years nut for alduin its just mere minutes or seconds from His battle of the ancient nords to the Dragonborn

Based alduin? 😳💯

We were sent to make it possible? Why? Does that mean Paarthurnaxx and everyone else in the game is a complete and total idiot? Surely Paarthurnaxx knows Alduin was just sent forward in time.

So basically the entirity of Skyrim is pointless?

What planet is tamriel on!!!!

Now that I will agree 💯👍

Maybe he just wants to torture these ants called humans?

I always thought he was not there in the 1st place it was just a fragment of his true power Until he is ready to fully awaken

Unless you add in the mod “Doomsday” which makes Alduin put you on a clock of one year to save the world or he does fulfill his destiny. It really changes how you play the game and makes you consider every action you do as either benefit or a waste of time.

It is as the greybeard say: “in an attempt to prevent the end of the world, one might hasten it.”

Ever since I realised that alduin wasn’t set out to eat the world but gain power, I suspected that we were the ‘rebalancer’ so to speak.
It’s also nice how it matches with what the wisest voices in skyrim tell us.

Y’know, that’s probably for the best, considering how extending the time period went in Dark Souls

So what you’re saying is, the Altmer were right and did nothing wrong.

Also Alduin is not a fucjing dragon

no, the dragonborn was not sent to him. He was sent to the dragonborn by the elder scroll.

Damn that’s even more badass lol

This is incorrect. He did return, when you read the elder scroll you find out he was imprisoned beyond the boundaries of time and it really wouldnt take much time to for him to realize his empire fell which is why he started to resurrect the other dragons. It was in attempt to once again consume the world. As the world eater the explanation as to why we don’t absorb his soul is simple, he was created to devour the world so it could be reborn. When you slay him you don’t truly kill him because he is of a godly nature. He cannot truly be killed, only delayed.

Yet another reason on why the dragonborn is the true villain in Skyrim, I mean you can become the leader of assassin’s and thieves, but compared to alduin, your a lesser of two evils

Did you know that Skyrims Dragons are actually Wyverns? Dragons have four legs, whilst Wyverns only have two.

I remember when I first found this out.. I was like wait!… You telling me those guys back then just threw him at the future to get rid of him lol..

So technically Alduin was the “good guy”.

Yup he’s the son of Akatosh after all

what people don’t know is alduin helped you get free so that he would have someone to fight fairly

Skyrim sucked SO Bad

That’s crazy..

Everyone is wrong by calling the dragons 🤷🏻

This is actually alluded to by Paarthurnax. Something along the lines of the work your do to prevent the end of the world may be causing it to happen faster. His way of asking “you sure about this, bub? He’s doing less harm this way.”

It would have been neat if Miraak called you on this. Instead of “Impressive but I totally could’ve done that too” it’d be “What? You… You actually killed him?! You fool, you’ve doomed us all!”

Alduin was placed there in the exact moment before your death by akatosh so that he would “save” you from death and that you would actually end Alduin’s destruction of the world(or simply delay it).
Its kinda messed up logic, like Akatosh sends Alduin “to kill you” , “starting” the end of the world, so that you could “survive” and stop Alduin from “ending” the world.

I mean doesn’t paarthurnax kinda just say it? Those who try to bring about the end may delay it, and Those who delay it may bring it around faster?

wwwwooooooaaaaaahhhhh

This is certainly the dominating Alduin, but dragons don’t perceive time the way mortals do on Nirn. He probably fully understood what happened to him.

I really liked the DLC quest to beat that other dragonborn guy, granted by the end of it I was running through all the enemies just to get to him, but man Skyrim even without mods was one of the best games ever made.

Hogwarts legacy just came out dammit. Don’t tempt me to do a Skyrim play through again!

Elder scrolls 6 is gunna be wild seeing him again then

One of the best games ever made

Doesn’t matter, my char in Hogwarts Legacy kills him. The dragon hard work and everyone else = FOR NOTHING!!!!

“he hasn’t actually RETURNED at all, just gone forward in time thousands of years!”The prophecy was not written by Alduin himself but by those who came after him. This means that the prophecy if from their perspective, not alduin’s. Therefore, from their perspective, he has RETURNED 🤦
The prophecy also refers to Alduin as the one who would destroy the world. This can be incredibly vague as you can destroy a whole civilised world and there will still be people. Wipe out a colony of ants and it’s the end for them…but I bet the beetles next door don’t think so🤷 paarthunax is not all knowing, he’s still fallible and is not above using specific turn-of-phrase to emphasise a point. His comment about that he strayed from his path is an incredibly basic ‘he turned evil so suffered the consequences’. It’s even stated on the wiki that relations between men and dragon were good on Atmora and only grew hostile after they arrived on tamriel.
Remember, this is from a MORTAL perspective and goes back to their perspective from the dragon war and should be looked at as such. Its all about perspective and scale. Remember, paarthunax wouldn’t give you the means to kill Alduin knowing full well it’d result in everyone’s deaths if he was really serious about making amends to humanity unless he was really wanting that to happen which would make him a lier; a.k.a an unreliable narrator, in the first place🤷

And that’s the reason I’ve been playing the game for years and never beat the story….

I still want to search his corpse

No this is incorrect. He has returned from the perspective of the Nords. The ones who wrote the stories.

So… We were sent to nuke the world?

The Ragnarök Effect

I hadn’t considered that it was literally only seconds for alduin, dude was probably so fkn confused

No I haven’t played dungeons & dragons since I was about 14

When I first played Skyrim many moons ago I actually thought you could go right up to him and try to talk to him without trying to click on to him so without trying to run away from him I walk right up to him and it’s kind of odd because if you do it like that when you try to aim or try to Target so to speak him you’ll actually start trying to like mutter and say little things in his dragon language

X at that

And why wouldn’t he go forward in time to destroy the world if that’s his whole purpose? Return and going forward only depends on the perspective and from the perspective of the world he did indeed return. Objectively he did as well because to go from past to present one has to leave the past aka the world.

The recreation idea, by the way, makes no sense, especially since there’s no dragonbreak happening after his destruction

Makes sense. Dragonborn gets its power from akatosh and akatosh wants all the static 😂

Interesting theory, as it is believed the “All-Maker” the Skaal pray to is none other than the world eater himself.
To devour the world is to make room for the next one, and just as he does so he creates as much as he destroys.

You can’t kill the god of time.

Red Eyes was killed so that Blue Eyes could be born.

12 years later. Never beaten the story. Never had the end spoiled for me. In 12 years. That has changed now…

Alduin better show up in the Donbas

why was I notified of this I don’t even play skyrim

As someone who likes Happy endings, I choose to believe that I’m just killing a bad guy

i have not heard that name in so long

What are you citing? Where does it say Alduin rejected his duty? Reviving his friends doesn’t mean he won’t eat it later once he gathers strength or wtv. And btw, you don’t absorb his soul bc he’s not actually a dragon, that’s just the form he takes

Alduin was executing the kalpa when he was sent forward in time. From his point of view he just continued to do his fonction and ravage the world and basically restart the réality…it happened à few times in the elder scrolls universe an exemple is the redguards who survived à kalpa. 🙂

how do you uncapp skyrims framerate successfully

Omg man let the game die already.

Story and guilds are weak as f in skyrim

“Yo Alduin go end the world”
“Okay”
“NOT LIKE THAT”

I mean… wasn’t this kind of really obvious, though?

What of the entire dragonborn race was imperial and yet you can be a fus roh(ing) high elf

Well my theory is, the prophecy that brings the end time involves the dragonborn killing alduin, so that it what starts the end.

I don’t want the world of elder scrolls to end

Well, judging by how powerful he is (or rather, how weak) he isn’t powerful enough to destroy the world yet. Him devouring souls is a way to gain power (gaining power from devouring souls is one of his powers) and him reviving dragons is probably a way to send more souls to sovenguard. Essentially, he is too weak to end the world so he needs to gain power first.

Also of note is that it’s kind of debatable about what the relationship between Alduin and Akatosh is, with some people saying that there both parts of the same being, or that Alduin is Akatosh’s child. Essentially, there’s nothing suggesting that Akatosh wants the world to end. In fact, I think all of his actions in the series as well as his general place as one of the “good gods” that he wouldn’t try to hasten the end of the world, especially if it’s inevitable in the first place.

Basically, this can’t technically be fully disproven but it’s also not necessarily proven to be true. As for why you don’t absorb Alduins souls that’s because he’s basically a god, and hasn’t actually been fully destroyed forever. I mean, you can’t even absorb dunavears soul so I don’t think it’s unreasonable you can’t absorb the oldest and most powerful dragon (besides Akatosh himself).

Fascinating

the worst elder scrolls lore ever

Ugh spoiler alert

The gray beards kind of say this. They mention how Alduins return is not the first appearance, how that the world ending may be a good thing, and that the dragon born only delays the inevitable.

“those who seek to delay the end of the world may hasten it”

Well shít

So what your saying is The divines really kicked the shit outta him for being lazy

plot twist – partharnox tricked you into killing alduin so he can come back and destroy the world

This is what happens when you give a virgin free time he recreates an imaginary story that was already created as an imaginary story

Can y’all just admit Bethesda gave 0 fucks about previously established lore cause they needed a big bad dragon? This is the “eliminate as many RPG mechanics as possible” Bethesda, not the guys who wrote Morrowind.

Everyone in Skyrim’s sounds the same rip could’ve been a great great great game if the creators gave a f about dialogue

Oh like ragnorok

Very nord thing to do to kick his ass just to make him get back to his job of killing everyone

Imagine him coming back in a different game, but like as a reincarnated spirit, or as another creature that helps the main character

Alduin was attuned to time itself because he is second born ever next to akotosh the god of time I’m gonna assume alduin didn’t have much sense of time but I’m sure he was aware a lot of time had passed considering he is directly linked with it but I’m not a YouTuber oh right I’m smarter than one

World eater ? He nikocado

ES6 spoiled

Elder scrolls 6?

Skyrim is bad

Well… time for another playthrough.

That’s actually a really cool theory. Could be truw

Bad ass

I still don’t know what the story was I just played it just to play it

When playing for the 7th time I thought of that but shrugged it of

It’s good I was right about this then.

I never thought this version of Alduin was truly the World-Eater.

I. Love. This.

Maybe Alduin is Akatosh

Lmao still learning shi ab this game🤣

Why can’t I Bend Alduin’s Will then ride him while lighting up any and all Thalmor I find

Uninteresting fact: I’ve played Skyrim for probably 150 hours back when it came out & only did about 10% of the main quest that isn’t required during the beginning of the game. I spent a majority of my time spelunking or smithing armor to sell for money.

Alduin as a follower is kinda cool

This is good. We were the ones thar made “The end” possible like Ragnarock rather than Alduin. He was really just a confused bby boi. Might explain why he attacked Helgan. Ik I’d be pissed if I time traveled and everything around me was foreign

If this is true, that means they’ll be able to bring him back as a boss at some later time if you’re playing a hero who actually wants to stop the end of the world

i want a game where I just play as a dragon and burn cities is that too much to ask

The idea of Alduin destroying the world has surprisingly stupid reasons behind it – first the nords are dumb and the second one that there are 2 beings called Alduin – one of them is an aspect of Anui-El and one of the three “main gods” and the other one is a dragon the firstborn child of Bormach (one of the Akatoshes names). While first is nearly omnipotent god in terms of destruction cuz its basically his domain (in opposition to Auriel’s “creation”) and the second one… is just a dragon, very powerful tho.

Too bad he’s a generic dragon fight and not a compelling antagonist

O.O

so in elder 6, can we play as a Dragonborn again? huh neat

RIP to the guy who came up with this just to be called “someone.”

What’s the background music it sounds majestic

Who’s to say that our world isn’t just the one that was birthed anew after being destroyed by Alduin. The new world birthed is the real world of today. The Big Bang to now was just the byproduct of the destruction of a previous universe? Idk

That honestly would make more sense in the frame of a time travel story. Classic self fulfilling prophecy twist. I mean, sort of classic. The “I was the bad guy the whole time” is sort of a video game cliche at this point, but it is one that I tend to enjoy. It’s really one of the few stories that can only be expressed through the media of vid games.

Imagine being sent Foward in time, all your friends and family are dead and buried, having been killed by the same ones you once Fought. But you can return them to life by feeding on the souls of those responsible for their deaths.
Yea, I’d do it too

If ES 6 big bad was a big bad Alduin the size of Hammerfell. Reborn. Wow 👌 👏